a sort of global graduate seminar about the relationship between reason and faith and the place of religion in a secular world. i think the truth, judy, is all of of those things have validity. all of them add up to the full picture of a pope who had his strengths and his weaknesses. i think will undoubtedly be remembered for both. >> woodruff: monsignor hilgartner all of that plays into the question of what role will he play in the selection of his successor? he won't have a vote but he selected more than half of the cardinals who will be doing the picking. >> he has selected more than half. there was a question as to whether or not he would participate. and the holy sea clarified this morning in the middle of all the other news that he would not participate. but his influence is clear. i think even his statement this morning about recognizing that there are major things that the church needs to address and do that he doesn't feel that he has the stamina to be able to accomplish really sets the stage for the cardinals when they gather to begin to look at and discuss and reflect on what tho